If you work in sales, get married young.

"BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather" (bugeyedacura) 01/23/2014 at 18:47 • Filed to: None

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My colleagues all give me a hard time, but being that I'm the "new guy" on the team, I've been able to get a better perspective. And I think I made the right choice to get married at 24.

I see so many people in the world of sales who have become bitter and no longer do it for the thrill of the chase, and are just hardened and "good at it". I think this tends to lead to a very soulless type of life. I think that's because these people don't have any way to decompress. They try to party, but that only compounds their problems in the morning.

No, I can allow myself to go through the natural ups and downs in the cycles and deal with all of the bs because I know I'm not going through it alone. When I get done at 5:30, good day or bad, I have someone waiting for me at home when I get there.

Datassunwoman > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather 01/23/2014 at 18:50

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if you live in Austin I want to offer you a job ..

AndersSim - V10'ING > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather 01/23/2014 at 18:51

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Or just get a yourself a girlfriend you truly love because of who she is, and not just because she provides you with sex. I have the exact same feeling everyday I drive home. :)

For Sweden > AndersSim - V10'ING 01/23/2014 at 18:52

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You feel something other than driving enjoyment when you drive home?

AndersSim - V10'ING > For Sweden 01/23/2014 at 18:55

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If its 5:30 in the evening and the only thing I see infront of me, is a lousy Toyota Avensis pushing the brake pedal the whole time, while in the car next to me a woman is texting while driving dangerously close to the car in front, no then I don't enjoy it ;)

ddavidn > For Sweden 01/23/2014 at 18:56

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Clearly, he drives an automatic.

BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather > Datassunwoman 01/23/2014 at 18:58

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I live in Virginia, but if the job's worth it, I'd be more than happy to move.

HammerheadFistpunch > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather 01/23/2014 at 18:58

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That's kids for me. Coming home to my daughters, even grumpy, makes me happy. That's not to say that I don't love coming home to my wife...but kids are awesome....they just are.

BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather > AndersSim - V10'ING 01/23/2014 at 18:59

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Sounds like Northern VA lol

AndersSim - V10'ING > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather 01/23/2014 at 18:59

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In this case, Denmark!

AndersSim - V10'ING > ddavidn 01/23/2014 at 19:00

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Correctly.

BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather > HammerheadFistpunch 01/23/2014 at 19:00

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I can't wait to have kids. We just need a house first. Which requires money first. And we don't have much of that yet :\

Casper > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather 01/23/2014 at 19:03

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Marriage isn't really as important as commitment and having a partner you want to be with. Far too many people get caught up in over emphasizing one specific thing they are looking for in a partner (appearance, income, sex, etc) and spend years looking for it. After finding the best person at x they get married (or settle) and end up divorced in short order... because what they were looking for had nothing to do with being a good partner.

At this point, I see marriage as nothing but a way to get the "wedding" for most woman and a way for insecure people or incompatible people to try to force the relationship into something stable. The average age of marriage is going up, but the average duration is all over the board and generally only around 7-8 years for the totality of married samples.

Datassunwoman > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather 01/23/2014 at 19:07

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We'll I come from a sales background and was able to find a job that doesn't involve sales .. Dealing in insurance replacements . We replace items for insureds who were just robbed (any kind of loss really) . While doing that we work with major companies like snap on and best buy . Since we do so much business with these companies they give us discounts and we are able to make profit while helping the person who was just robbed (or had a tornado hit the house or a floor anything) and help the insurance company by saving them money on the items the insured would have replaced locally and paid more ..

Anyway its a great job with full benefits and it pays well but I cant see anyone moving across the country unless your just in the mood for change ..

BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather > Datassunwoman 01/23/2014 at 19:17

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Right now I'm not making enough for the area we live in, and my wife and I are both looking for a change. Benefits are also very important to me because I have Diabetes. In all truth, how do I get more information? It honestly sounds like a great fit for me.

Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather 01/23/2014 at 19:18

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BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather > Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire 01/23/2014 at 19:20

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This cracks me up every time. I know it's probably not funny on your end, but I always get a kick.

Datassunwoman > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather 01/23/2014 at 19:30

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National Vendor is our company name .. Do some research . Rgunter at national vendor dot com is my email. You can send me your resume and a cover letter ..

BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather > Datassunwoman 01/23/2014 at 20:36

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It's heading towards your inbox now :)

Manuél Ferrari > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather 01/23/2014 at 20:51

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Get married young period!

Otherwise you end up too set in your ways like me. I'm 35 next month and if I don't get married in the next 5 years it will be really tough to adjust.

I can already imagine how many arguments there will be. "You bought what car today?" :D

BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather > Manuél Ferrari 01/23/2014 at 20:55

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Well my wife likes cars, so that's never an issue lol

Manuél Ferrari > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather 01/23/2014 at 20:55

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Don't think that way!

If you love your wife you'll be happy no matter where you live.

Did you set a rule for yourself that you have to own a condo or house before having your first kid?

Manuél Ferrari > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather 01/23/2014 at 20:56

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Awesome :)

BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather > Manuél Ferrari 01/23/2014 at 20:56

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We set a rule that we need to be out of her parents basement first lol

BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather > Manuél Ferrari 01/23/2014 at 20:56

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Yeah I'm pretty lucky :)

Manuél Ferrari > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather 01/23/2014 at 20:57

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Oh haha

That's a good plan

Just make sure you don't hold off until you can afford to buy a place

Buying has advantages but it can be overrated too.

Manuél Ferrari > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather 01/23/2014 at 20:58

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If she can drive a 6MT too then you're super lucky :)

BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather > Manuél Ferrari 01/23/2014 at 21:09

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We're weighing out the buy vs rent proposition now. But it really depends on my career path going forward. That gives us some time though.

BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather > Manuél Ferrari 01/23/2014 at 21:10

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She can't :( but I told her if she learned that I'd get her a Golf R. So she wants to learn lol

Manuél Ferrari > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather 01/23/2014 at 21:16

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That makes sense.

You should focus on career path first. You don't want to get stuck if you get a good job offer in another location but selling the house will cost you money. You really want to be set in your location before buying. Just the sales commission alone costs 5-6% so even if the house hasn't lost value you can lose money...

Manuél Ferrari > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather 01/23/2014 at 21:16

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wow that is a great deal for her!

BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather > Manuél Ferrari 01/23/2014 at 21:21

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And the interest on the loan can take years just to pay off.

BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather > Manuél Ferrari 01/23/2014 at 21:24

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Well it's proper motivation lol that way we can get a stick truck and the R and not worry about who's driving what.

Manuél Ferrari > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather 01/23/2014 at 21:25

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Yeah. Houses cost too much to pay off quickly.

Once you're making enough money to really benefit from writing off the interest it is beneficial. But until you hit that point it's just wasted money.

My simple rule of thumb is to not buy until you are settled in your career and can afford to buy a house that you really like and can see yourself living in for a minimum of 10 years.

10 years is a good number because even if you get unlucky and time the market wrong the value should be back to what you paid for it by the time you want to sell and move somewhere else.

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather 01/24/2014 at 12:37

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Thanks for having the right perspective on this.

I got married at 23, started career, bought a house same year (and a car - unplanned hers died), new company by 26 and had our first baby 1 year ago (1 year and 1 week ago). we're looking into a new house that's bigger, we're set to turn a nice profit on our first house to use as down payment on the next. In the detroit area? want an oppo deal? lol

We had lots of her friends saying have a baby have a baby! and we were like...can't afford one sorry. Her best friend's response was, that's what welfare, WIC, and Bridge cards are for!! Our response was, no that's not what it's for but if you end up in the situation unplanned then yeah get help if you need it. We waited a few years (it was nice to wait, enjoy your marriage and fun time with your wife before a baby is in the mix, it's awesome though you'll love being a parent, even if it's a bit insane). It was worth waiting because we could actually afford formula and daycare. Daycare costs more than my mortgage payment. you've been warned lol

BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather > MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner 01/24/2014 at 12:42

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Thanks man, and congratulations :)

My way of thinking about it has always been that I don't want to have a kid till I can give them everything they need. I don't approve of setting yourself up to rely on aid or assistance, and appreciate that you have the perspective of its there for when you need it, not just want it.

I'm hoping to follow in your path. I was 24 (still am), and I would be quite happy to set myself and my wife up the way you guys did.

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather 01/24/2014 at 12:55

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Thank you. Honestly becoming a dad is one of the coolest things ever. It's unbelievable how far he has come in a year. We joked at his bday party last weekend that it wasn't a celebration for him turning 1 but for us first time parents keeping a helpless tiny human alive for a year lol. He's pretty awesome (and loves cars/anything with an engine already!).

I hope everything stays on track for you guys and you continue to do well. A lot of people seemed to think it was weird to get married in our early 20s, but we waited until we were both graduated from college and we'd been together quite a long time. They seemed to think we'd never have fun again lol. If that's true you're marrying/married to the wrong person. Enjoy yourselves for a few years and make that money! Parenting is every bit as exhausting and trying as people let on. The joys are indescribable though.